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About this newsgroup - please read before posting!
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Robert Kaiser
2011-06-25 12:20:07 UTC
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Hi,

We notice that every now and then, people are posting questions about
the SeaMonkey suite in this newsgroup - but that might not be the best
idea if you want to get a real reply from our community.

For questions on the SeaMonkey suite project, please look at the groups
and other sources list on http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community
instead, you will find a vibrant community there instead of the mostly
dead place this usenet group is nowdays.

Here is why:

This newsgroup was created for the original "Seamonkey project" of the
newly-founded Netscape-driven mozilla.org project back in 1999.
This "Seamonkey project" was the subproject that did the early "M"
milestone releases of Mozilla, and the newsgroup was completely about
release and project management for those.
This dedication as a release and project management newsgroup continued
even when that original "Seamonkey project" was not active any more and
releases of Mozilla 0.x were not published to the more hidden
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/milestones/ and
http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/release-notes/ pages any more
but instead to more public http://www.mozilla.org/releases/ pages. And
the newsgroup still was the primary hub of project and release
management for Mozilla 1.x releases and even for the Mozilla project in
general when Firefox and Thunderbird were already around and taking up
most of the focus in here.

When in 2005 a new SeaMonkey project was founded to take over the
development of what previously was the Mozilla 1.x suite, the new
project had no newsgroup to meet and publish on, and misused this group
for a bit.
The great newsgroup reorganization of 2005/2006 did finally give the
project a dedicated developer newsgroup at mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
and a user support newsgroup at mozilla.support.seamonkey (both
available on the news.mozilla.org server), and

THE WHOLE netscpe.public.mozilla.* WAS RETIRED

as we now had a much better replacement in the form of the mozilla.*
newsgroups at news.mozilla.org (also available at Google groups).
That includes this newsgroup, which was replaced by dedicated
correctly-named groups like mozilla.dev.planning and friends.

For more about this reorganization, see
http://www.mozilla.org/community/giganews-migration.html
http://ilias.ca/newsserverinfo
http://ilias.ca/blog/2005/04/the-history-of-mozilla-newsgroups/
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/2006/01/news_is_done_1.html

So, to iterate it again:

THIS GROUP IS 1) OBSOLETE AND 2) NOT ABOUT THE SEAMONKEY SUITE.

If you want help with the "new" SeaMonkey suite, please refer to our
homepage at http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ - more specifically to the
information sources referenced in the community and support page at
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/community - and ask questions in the
groups listed there, you will get more people to help you than the few
people that are still reading the outdated group in here.

That said, thanks for reading this and using SeaMonkey,

Robert Kaiser
SeaMonkey Council member

P.S.: I know a few good souls in our community still read this group and
try to help people, but the better place for user support is
news://news.mozilla.org/mozilla.support.seamonkey as that group is
really active and has more people reading and posting to it.
Graham
2011-06-25 18:40:59 UTC
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Post by Robert Kaiser
THIS GROUP IS 1) OBSOLETE AND 2) NOT ABOUT THE SEAMONKEY SUITE.
Since the only things ever posted to it are about the Seamonkey suite
anyway, is it not possible to make it impossible to add posts?
Ralph Fox
2011-06-26 00:50:03 UTC
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Post by Graham
Post by Robert Kaiser
THIS GROUP IS 1) OBSOLETE AND 2) NOT ABOUT THE SEAMONKEY SUITE.
Since the only things ever posted to it are about the Seamonkey suite
anyway, is it not possible to make it impossible to add posts?
This group netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey is on a few thousand Usenet
news servers around the world. Many of the posters are not using the
mozilla news server:

MargM ............. is using the news.individual.net news server
John A. ........... is using the Eternal-September news server

If you want to do this effectively, you would need every one of those
thousands of news servers to disable posting on their respective servers.
If you simply stop new posts arriving on news.mozilla.org, posters using
other servers won't notice and will still keep posting to this group.
--
Kind regards
Ralph
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